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How does fiber internet work 0ms ping

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Snazzy Labs upgrades to fiber. Learn what different types of fiber networks exist, how they work, and the effects they have on your network speeds and ping time. Purchase a Ubiquiti Dream Machine - https://amzn.to/37hrn0J Purchase a Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro - https://amzn.to/3cJ3aBC Purchase a Cable Matters CAT6a patch panel - https://amzn.to/2AWp6vK Subscribe to my podcast Flashback! - http://relay.fm/flashback Follow Snazzy Labs on Twitter - http://twitter.com/snazzyq Follow me on Instagram - http://instagram.com/snazzyq Fiber internet is the new cool thing in the tech world, but it can get confusing because from country-to-country (even company-to-company), definitions vary. On this episode of Snazzy Labs, we install fiber internet and explain what FTTX means, the difference between AON and PON optical networks, and why Active Ethernet is going to be an awesome solution for us. How to get faster internet? How to get lower ping time? This is how. Gigabit speeds and sub-1ms ping time to the rescue!

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    @snazzy4 years ago This video was 14GB and uploaded in about 5 minutes. I can get used to this... 3808
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    @heyjustj4 years ago Bending the cable was pretty crazy! I think the zeros get through fine because they are round but the ones probably get stuck in the sharp bend. 2167
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    @utubekullanicisi4 years ago When your ping is so good you're bottlenecked by the servers of the game company 2481
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    @wrathcaster25554 years ago "Internet service providers don't typically give life, they suck it". The most truest sentence on the internet 475
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    @mikediezel09234 years ago Linus with his stadium grade router: well that's cute 543
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    @bhud984 years ago As a certified fiber installer/network admin, watching you bend that cable took years off my life. Kids, don’t go bending your cable just for fun. Eventually the stress WILL kill it! 492
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    @VedantApps4 years ago "Internet service providers don't typically give life, they suck it" 😂😂 491
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    @alexmeyer81334 years ago Going from 50mb/20mb to fiber is such a massive upgrade! Congrats! I live stream games and work in tech and the first thing I did when I was established on twitch was pay for fiber. I went from living in Wisconsin with 40 - 60ping in most games I play, to 0 - 5ms at all times. It's amazing. ... 76
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    @ChildAnnihliator464 years ago Snazzy labs: we have epic 300tb server
    Linus: hold my data
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    @peegee1014 years ago "Internet providers generally dont give life, they generally suck it." Thats an awesome T-shirt right there 314
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    @teroblepuns4 years ago "Internet Service Providers don't typically give life, they suck it" 😂 32
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    @idkilham4 years ago the "This" sounded exactly like Doug DeMuro's "This."
    Who agrees?
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    @dcf89784 years ago Him: Uploads 14GB File in 5 mins "I could get used to this"
    Me: Uploads 0.5GB File in 6 days "Dangit, the phone bill is gonna be huge this month"
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    @vanforsman4 years ago As a an ex-fiber tech of a couple of years, I loved seeing this video Quinn!
    Couple things!
    Gigabit is not crazy. I know thats hard for 99% of you, I had dial-up until highschool, 2009. I know. At my job, our PON was running 1Gb down, 250Mb up residential and business 500Mb up, with availability for 10G when we began installing in 2018 from day one. Base price was $99/mo plus install.
    When you bent that cable your service didn't slow down, it actually quit. Since the signal is optical-digital it's on or off. The cable might have broke too, I'd definitely not use it and I'm sure you won't. It worked afterwards because it's going a short distance and the break doesn't actually stop the signal dead. the cracks are like the surface of water, light can go through but the signal integrity is diminished. Put a VFL (visual fault locator) laser tester on it and that spot will always glow, but more when bent (light escaping the buffer tube).
    Again, very cool video Quinn!
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    @richardsmithers58683 years ago When putting extreme bends in fiber optic cable, even if the connection is still working, it lowers the maximum (optimal) speed at which the data can transfer. So if your cable is rated to work at speeds of 10Gbps, extreme bend would probably lower the maximum speed possible, increase errors, and probably introduce latency. Those are some awesome statistics when testing your connection!!! 👍 ... 35
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    @GetFluxed4 years ago Have to say the fibre durability test was a fantastic unexpected gem. Thanks! 4
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    @DamienDae4 years ago The one thing I remember after watching this video: Microsoft Edge is available for the Mac. 593
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    @jamesnicholls99694 years ago Snazzy Labs:"we have gigabit internet"
    Linus at L.M.G.:"hold my beer"
    proceeds to show 10 gigabit internet speed
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    @Soul_Reaperlast month I’m not even doing anything with Fiber, yet I watched the video. I could watch more, love how you explain the smaller details that normally get left out by others.
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    @CognizantPotato4 years ago Him: Gigabit Internet
    Me: Laughs in DSL
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    @vyomsingh28364 years ago Take a shot every time he says, “fiber” 481
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    @nolanrembert1894 years ago I just watched a twenty minute video about an internet connections and enjoyed every second of it! Keep up the good work Quinn! 62
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    @davidfrischknecht82613 years ago I've been using Verizon Fios for several years now and I love. A couple years ago I upgraded to their FiOS Quantum 1Gbps tier. The speeds are symmetric. I don't regret it for an instance. It's so much more reliable than the Optimum Online I had previously. The fiber line actually goes all the way into my apartment to this big box on my wall. From there it goes to my router via a coax cable. This box on my wall is plugged into a power outlet, too. ... 1
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    @Phillyation4 years ago Snazzy, first video of yours that i have watched. I am a network admin and do biyearly presentations to the freshmen class at my alma mater. May i use parts of your video during my presentations? Your description of network equipment is clear, concise and linear. Brilliant. ...
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    @Mu3azOsman4 years ago cries in 3rd world internet speed while watching the video in 480p 530
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    @anshulsingh76634 years ago Me: sees him bending the fiber
    My fiber: Don't even think about it
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    @DavidQuinn1014 years ago Awesome video, I shared this with a new colleague to help understand basic networking. At my office (Evolving Networks Limited) here in the UK, we have a total of 4.4Gbps upload and download usable in our office. We aggregate multiple IPS connections together to form a single useable broadband connection in sync with our core SD-WAN network and provide the same service to all of our customer depending on availability in their area.
    For example in my home right now, I have 2 FTTC connections that present RJ11, those cables connect into a single 'EVX' via an SFP VDSL2 modem that aggregate the two 55/10 connection speeds to a total of 108mbps download (there is 2mbps taken for overheads) and 19mbps upload (2mbps for overheads). Each broadband link is with a different ISP, so if one network were to fail, my connection still carries on without even noticing a drop in a VoIP call, so we provide not only a massive boost in speeds but also resilience. The SD-WAN side of our services in a WHOLE other subject.
    The single device I'm using also has an integrated 4G SIM with modem so if both links were to fail, the 4G kicks in and tunnels to our core network, keeping me connected with the same public WAN IP. The device also does 802.11ac and I'll soon be upgrading that to ax once my supplier can provide me with a large batch of the Wi-Fi modems.
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    @tigerroar60714 years ago Thank You Snazzy Labs,
    For this awesome informative and Educational video. I am waiting for the isp tour. I have always wondered how these things works.
    Thanks again.
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    @MoneyIVI4 years ago "we were stuck with some crappy around 50mb/s down and 25mb/s up"
    Me with 2mb/s dsl internet: -_-
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    @gavinscott-miller15534 years ago This was an awesome video for explaining in pretty good detail how fiber works for the layman. I work as a PM in construction management for electrical and network installations and the part where you demonstrate the strength of the fiber Is an incredible teaching tool
    Good work man!
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    @sahil_tayade4 years ago This channel reminds me of when i used to watch linus tech tips! 5
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    @UnderEu4 years ago Network Infrastructure videos: my favorite ones 🤓 26
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    @dajlanaj40714 years ago Wow, I am into the network topic since several years and you literally explained stuff so well, before that you normally had to look up several articles & videos to get the knowledge delivered by your video, well done 👍 6
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    @JaredBell583 years ago Getting fiber internet installed today at home and I had to watch this to get HYPED!
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    @bipolartorecovery1485last year Thanks for making a section from my network+ exam more relatable. I just got burned out from notes and flash cards. Nice to see it being put to real life use
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    @canyoudig_it4 years ago I'm certified in professional fiber installation, it all depends on the quality of what you get. The stuff we used in the past could be tied in a knot and would barely add any impedance. Fiber is really freaking cool. 47
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    @chrisc50944 years ago snazzy labs: 1 Gbps internet
    meanwhile me: internet that barely hits 1.5 Mbps
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    @jeroeniemans4 years ago nice vid!! i stumbled accros this vid with your 11000 mac vs pc. Im getting myself 1000/1000 as well and this vid is excellent to adjust expectations. it was no boring at all from start to end
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    @thingies4U2 years ago Test your ping using PING in the command line if you want "real-world" results. I think the major internet providers detect SpeedTest and somehow skew the results. Also change the test server to one you know is definitely part of a competing network. You'll see ping increase (though not necessarily by much). ... 9
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    @ToreOnYouTube4 years ago Always interresting to see how different internet is around the globe. I know USA is a pretty huge contry, but I still find it incredible how many are stuck on so slow speeds. 12
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    @HugoStMichel4 years ago We get download speeds of up to 1.5 Gbps up north here in Canada with Bell Fiber. 31
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    @HerbieFollin3 years ago I'm getting 1 gig internet at my house this week. Very excited for it. I'm not sure if I /need/ it, but I wanted to try it out and possibly switch to a lower speed later on. 1
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    @Joepiano064 years ago “50mbps up is slow” me: cry’s in 12kbps 15
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    @GauraangArora4 years ago I was just reminded of Doug DeMuro. 29
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    @suhdude97754 years ago In Stockholm, Sweden. You can get 10gbit in some residential homes, for ~$50/month. The isp is “Bahnhof” 18
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    @adamkosal39493 years ago Your channel is the best. Full professionalism.
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    @sirprofit92574 years ago I don’t know how I ended up here but very interesting and valuable information. Thank you!
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    @WarriorsPhoto4 years ago Congratulations Quinn and thank you for sharing your experience with the Fiber Cable. I wonder how often that bend can be done and still have the drive work well? 3
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    @aidan79134 years ago You were pinging yourself at lmao 23
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    @characterK3 years ago Outside plant fiber splicer here. ISPs, including mine, do bring fiber directly from CO/Headend or data center dedicated to a customer. Also, fiber click cleaners keep connectors clean and undamaged preventing bit errors.
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    @DanielSRosehill2 years ago Amazing video. Thanks for all the great info! 2
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    @bharathg80724 years ago When you bent that cable one of two things might've happened. one. the light might've been blocked because TIR (total internal reflection doesn't occur at extreme angles, or two the bend caused a slight crack in the cable and when straightened out the light can pass through but not as well as it would've if it weren't bent. ... 16
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    @TechWithBrett4 years ago Did you buy the Juniper modem? My install had a DZS and I don't have a fiber out. 114
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    @BoutItInc4 years ago kevlar strands surround the fiber in the cable, it helps with crazy bends but can still break
    . Also the bending of individual fiber help locate fiber when splicing in a case out doors.
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    @rihamission4873 years ago "Internet Service Providers don't typically give life, they suck it..." subscribed. 1
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    @thomaslopez95884 years ago My man rocking Juniper gear?! That's nice enterprise gear. 5
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    @michaeltb13583 years ago Fibre optic cables are made of 2 materials. The outer one has a different refractive index which causes light to reflect and travel in a zigzag along the fibre. If you bend it too tight you prevent the reflections continuing normally. The first examples were solid glass rods. They just got thinner. ... 7
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    @dpjazzy154 years ago At Spectrum they call it hybrid fiber coax (HFC). The fiber hits the node and the node converts it to s radio signal on the 500 line. They have repeaters to extend that signal further. 1
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    @raykellfoster84614 years ago @ should be put on loop man ! LOVE the reaction!
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    @testerretest43134 years ago THIS..... Doug DeMuro Confirmed 22
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    @johnbrantley40144 years ago "I'm no engineer" goes on to explain the engineering aspect of fiber internet..... 27
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    @sophiarodriguez18614 years ago Thank you so much for the detailed explanation!
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    @marcasrealaccount4 years ago The reason why the internet didn't work with that bend, is because of how the photons inside the cable have to bounce more, making the signal weaker at the other end ... 10
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    @marcusaurelius74384 years ago I really enjoyed your geeking out, I'm getting 1,000 mbps fibre installed next week (currently have 2mbps) and now I feel better about being so excited. 10
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    @AllThisThingsIHateU3 years ago I am watching this with my mobile hotspot because I cannot afford any type of wired internet. Awesome video!
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    @nusermane10763 years ago Please do a lot more of that Networking/Smarthome/Wifi/Server stuff 😍
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    @Daniel_Scarlet3 years ago Me: seeing how he touches this giant cable -
    YouTube: please check your internet connection.
    Also me: What have you've done!?
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    @Gytis.I4 years ago Feels good to live in country where 1Gbit connection costs ~20€/month. It is so usual in Lithuania that it is rarely surprising someone. But the real problem is users routers. They imagine that they can get same speed on Wi-Fi in any apartment or 2 floors house. ... 3
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    @ScottDowneywoundedbear4 years ago I have been on fiber to the home for around 6 years and its great. A few months ago the ISP upgrade me to 1.5Gb down and 940mb up. The ping time is 1ms from my computer.
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    @jhndk79154 years ago Such an interesting video!! I just moved out of my parents house and we live in the same street (middle of nowhere). They have cable, I got DSL because cable is way too expensive.
    They have 1 Gbps down, I sync at 100/40, but sinch I'm on a 'budget plan', I'm capped to 50/20. I pay €30 for a landline, TV and internet, they pay slightly more than double.
    I prefer DSL so much over cable, it feels just so much snappier + you don't share your connection with anyone.
    My ping times are usually 5 - 7 ms and jitter is always under 1 ms, often even under 0,1.
    My parent's (cable) ping times were always 11 - 16 and jitter was often around 5 ms, only dropping to 2,5 after the evening. To be fair, because we live in the middle of nowhere, the cable is shared with the entire neighborhood. In other area's, they usually run 2 or 3 cables. Since they get gigabit, I also noticed speeds drop from 960 Mbps to 840 worst case when the network's busy. When they had 200 Mbps, you could barely notice other people were using the cable.
    What's ridiculous though is upload. They only get 40 Mbps upload (probably because the cable company knows for stability reasons, the phone company doesn't allow more than 40 Mbps upload on DSL). That's insane. If I dropped TV, I'd have the same upload speeds for the price I'm paying now!
    I live in a country in Europe where they've been ridiculously slow to roll out fiber (mainly because DSL and cable are available to pretty much everyone and pretty decent, a lot of countries like France that had crappy networks decided to switch to fiber straight away instead of upgrading their existing networks). If I could get it, I'd get 500/100 for the same €30 from my current provider or €35 for 1000/1000 from another fiber network, but it'll take forever and especially in my street...
    50 Mbps upload is currently the fastest I can get via a provider that offers internet and TV over LTE, but ping times are usually a little over 20 ms and it's just not as stable as a wired connection.
    Upload is getting so much more important than download. I know there are hardware limitations, but ISP's should get that.
    Edit: forgot to mention, I think in the Netherlands the phone company replaces copper pairs with individual fiber lines, which I'd prefer. In my country, it's gpon, though. It's also stupid that there's literally fiber running to the little cabinets from the cable and phone company in my street... like would it be so hard to run fiber from those things to people's houses? :p
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    @RaymondLo844 years ago that's a real BOTTLENECK 14
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    @dboy_4 years ago Great video, I tried to see what kind of performance with that 8k video I could get on my 200mpbs network. Surprisingly, it loaded and buffered just as fast as the fiber connection. I think you were getting bottlenecked by something for a whole 800mbps LOL ... 4
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    @FirstLast-jm4dx2 years ago I upgraded the Internet connection to 1Gbps for my company a few years ago. First thing I did after going live was to see how many concurrent 4k streams it can handle. It's crazy to think home users can now get 5Gbps or even 10Gbps Internet for a fraction of the price. ...
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    @Rohanthegr83 years ago The fiber cable bending and loss of connection is due to physics of total internal reflection in fiber cable. Therefore, when the cable is straightened, the angle of reflection for the laser is improved for communication.
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    @je.m33204 years ago Doug De muro lmao 9
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    @banreport80454 years ago Nobody:
    Literally Nobody:
    Me: Laugh's at 3mbps
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    @cbremer832 months ago I moved from MN to FL. Have gig fiber in both. I had CenturyLink in MN. My ping to cloudflair DNS server was around 7-10ms typically. Same equipment but on ATT fiber in FL, same server is around 23-25ms typically. Best I can tell, it has to do with the routing outside the home. Everything goes to Atlanta, GA from my home in western FL. In MN, the ISP endpoint was much closer. Based on trace route, that is the best I could come up with for why ping was so different. Not a huge deal. Most things in north america are still under 30ms as long as the internet as a whole is running smooth between me and the server. ...
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    @akyuztaha4 years ago I don’t understand half the things he’s saying but I still watch these videos
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    @teaajay4 years ago "How does fiber internet work?" very fast. thanks for watching! 10
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    @LetrixAR4 years ago when your internet was faster than a big tech youtuber connection 5
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    @serubin3 years ago The switch on the unifi dream machine has a managed switch on it - it's not just managed because it's a router too. Since it does switching at layer 3 (routing) as well as standard traffic router, it's more than just a switch + router/firewall. ...
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    @TheYtube774 years ago No one ever does this THANK YOU for showing the browsing speed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    @LeBeautiful4 years ago Snazzy come to my crib. I need this delicious SPEED. 10
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    @silliestgooseofficial4 years ago Me: WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NORMAL?!
    My rural area internet that has me at least 600 ping at all times: SCREAMS
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    @tuul1004 years ago Yes, the fiber cable that you are using is a big diameter cable. In the other hand, when you have really thin fiber cable, its most likely to break because you bended it too much as seen on the video. Same goes for the copper cables, if you bent it too much the connection will be horribly slow or not even making it trough. ... 1
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    @alphaxion4 years ago The DAC cable is also known as twin-ax. The majority are copper based but you can get fibre versions. For short cables they're much, much cheaper than fibre SFP modules, tho the QSFP DAC I needed for my Palo Alto 5220 was quoted by PA as being several thousand for a 10 metre cable - which was the only size they offered it in!
    Something people need to remember when it comes to SFPs and DACs is that many network equipment manufacturers won't support 3rd party modules and will either refuse to look at support tickets until you buy a 1st party module or will actually completely invalidate your warranty citing potential damage caused by the unsupported module. It's a lot of fun when you update the OS on your switch or firewall and find they've removed support for your 3rd party module.
    Regarding how much you can bend the cable before you lose signal, it's generally called the bend radius and is due to the fact that fibre is a small strand of glass and bending it attenuates the light to the point where none of it reaches the other side. Bend it too much/far and you're liable to snap the glass and lead to a lot of light leaking out of the cable. Interestingly the way the switch functions is that it records the light level as a power level (Rx and Tx) measured in milliamps and dBm.
    For your ping, it's not really representative to ping what is effectively your local network on the WAN side of your router as you'd expect that to be the shortest round trip time, especially if all you're pinging is your gateway address (which would be 1 hop). I would ping something like a server within your country but not on your ISP network to force it into making several hops, which you can see the latencies of each hop if you use the traceroute/tracert command to determine where your connection is getting the latency from. Keep in mind you get those sorta low latencies when you ping an IP on your internal subnet, usually represented in windows as "<1 ms".
    I've been getting 10G net connections set up in our offices and I'm looking forward to bringing them online soon :D
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    @himanshumahanta4 years ago imagine if someone breaks/cut that fibre cable that's outside the building . 53
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    @414RadioTech3 years ago @SnazzyLabs I really do enjoy your videos they're very helpful and useful answered most of my questions that otherwise would be hard to find out but I'm glad that you have an excellent channel that people could heavily rely on when it comes to getting certain answers for different products and services I always came to this channel and it helped me customize my iPhone 12 promax because of your knowledge I was able to pass that information along and share it with other people. ...
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    @switzerland4 years ago Meanwhile, me, just an IT guy in europe, having 10gbit/s home internet. Do I need it? No. Love it? Yes. My bottleneck is now my HDD... 19
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    @asleeperj4 years ago Anyone wondering what is in the ground, it's a fiber hako. It's where the feeder fiber comes in and is spliced to the individual drop to the house or business. There is most likely a service loop inside that hako, that has a lot more fiber than the few drops going down that orange tube. those usually stay intact and continue down the line to feed other FST (fiber serving terminals) ...
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    @abdirahmann4 years ago 'You can see marques's pores!'
    Am super dead!🤣🤣🤣💀()
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    @doom21254 years ago Damn I'm jealous. It's a shame people don't riot over our ISP's 34
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    @BBGH2 years ago Thank you for this video, I had a better understanding of the FTTx. Now I want to know if is possible to implement MPLS within FTTx.
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    @MrHaydnSir2 years ago as a complaints manager for FTTP for an ISP here in the UK, i wish this was a PSA because far too many people expect their upgrade to fibre to just mean their wifi is just gonna be massively better 1
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    @ashwinsanthosh91544 years ago Me over here with my 500 kb/s internet speed feeling happy when it reached 1 mb/s 14
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    @Amrit_SZN4 years ago Here i am still with my 6mbs comnection great! 3
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    @AleemAhmed4 years ago Great Explaination and demonstration 👍
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    @PodtrashRadio4 years ago I switched to 1.5Gbit download and 1Gbit upload fiber internet about 5 years ago and never turned back. This feels like normal speed for me now and 10Gbit seems like a incremental upgrade. But honestly beyond 1Gbit isn't really utilized in most scenarios and 10Gbit would require more complicated equipment and 2.5Gbit ethernet ports on your devices to take advantage. But obviously in the future everything will start to use more and more of fiberoptic connections throughput. So 10Gbit is good future proof... but the great thing is you can simply wait until that day comes and your ISP can upgrade you to 10Gbit with a phone call. ... 2